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Podcasts & Interviews

Working the Change Triangle
Listen to the body, discover core emotions, and connect to your authentic self.

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Mark Grove Podcast: Parents Have Feelings Too

A profound conversation on emotions, parenting, and breaking cycles of suppression. Explore Hilary’s groundbreaking “Change Triangle” tool and her new book Parents Have Feelings Too, which equips parents to better understand their own emotions so they can support their children’s. Learn why emotions are not “good” or “bad” but vital information, how unprocessed feelings fuel anxiety, depression, and addictions, and why modeling emotional fluency is the most powerful gift parents can offer.

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2 Pages with MBS Podcast

In today’s fast-paced world, change is the only constant. Yet, how do we truly understand, manage, and channel the emotions that accompany transformations, both personal and organizational? Whether you’re an individual seeking personal growth, or a leader aiming to steer an organization, understanding the emotional dimensions of change can be a game-changer.

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Anxious Love Podcast

“Emotions” like anxiety and depression are often cover emotions for deeper emotions like grief and anger – and working through our resistance to these emotions so we can arrive at our “core” emotions can help us access our calm, compassionate self. In this episode, I bring on emotions educator Hilary Jacobs Hendel, author of “It’s Not Always Depression,” to give you tangible tools for working through anxiety and depression to have a richer emotional experience.

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The Love Fix Podcast

Guiding Yourself Towards Healthy and Happy Relationships with The Change Triangle: Hilary Jacobs Hendel

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For the Love with Jennifer Hatmaker Podcast

It’s so hard to feel your feelings—especially when you have all of them all at once, and it’s never a convenient time to process them. For the past year, we’ve all been stewing with anxiety, stress, anger, loneliness, grief, and fear. Ignoring our hard feelings might seem like the easiest way to cope and get relief—but it’s not the only option available to us.

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The Embodied Podcast

This podcast shares ideas and concepts that are deeply human. In the podcast, we discuss holistic methodologies that help people heal and integrate the mind, body, and spirit. Through education, skills, and tools to work with emotions, we are empowered to overcome internal and external barriers and create a deeply meaningful existence.

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New Books in Psychology Podcast

"Depression and anxiety are not what you think they are, according to my guest. Often thought of as presenting problems in their own right, it might make more sense to think of them as clusters of symptoms deriving from underlying problems knowing and working with our core emotions.

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Feeling Weird Podcast Video

This was a fantastic interview with the compelling Kye Plant, Host of the Feelin Weird Podcast. Kye opens up about his own trauma and recovery and steers us into the most important topics to consider for emotional wellbeing. For viewers who get triggered into feeling small or "not good enough" at times (all of us!), this segment will likely resonate.

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Understanding Our Emotions in Relationships

Understanding our emotions is a fundamental requirement for personal and relationship growth. This episode provides tips on how to better understand your emotions, share with your partner and connect more deeply.

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Why We Just Can't "Get Over It" The Mark Groves Podcast

“Every single human has surely suffered with feeling invalidated for their emotions." Many of us have never really learned the true anatomy of our emotions. I explain in this episode how we build our lives around avoiding the true feeling of our emotions. For many of us, our early experiences with emotions involved being told to ‘get over it’ in one way or another.

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Mental Illness Happy Hour

If you listen to podcasts and are into personal growth, you'll love this show. I was honored to sit down in person in Los Angeles with host, comedian, and mental health advocate, Paul Gilmartin. The conversation is up close and personal, as we discussed our own struggles. And, of course, we talked about why it’s crucial to understand emotions to thrive in modern life and what you need to know that can make a big difference in your immediate wellbeing.

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Before You Kill Yourself

A live therapy demonstration, tips for handling jealousy and envy, and the challenges of allowing ourselves to feel big and proud are just some of the topics we covered in this podcast. Host and comedian Leo Flowers asked important questions relevant for us all. You will get many practical tips and quite a bit of new information in this episode. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed sharing.

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Strand Bookstore Launch

I was at the iconic Strand Bookstore last Wednesday (2/7/18) to kick off the launch of It's Not Always Depression, my new book sharing the goldmine of emotion education I learned in my trauma and emotion-centered psychotherapy training so it can help all people who want to feel better.

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AEDP, The Change Triangle & Depression

In this comprehensive hour long video, I share the origin of the Change Triangle, how it helps with anxiety, depression and more and why I am passionate about sharing it with others.

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That Relationship Show: Everything You Wanted To Know About Emotions But Were Afraid to Ask

Author and therapist Hilary Jacobs Hendel takes us through the meaning and importance of emotions. Using the visual of a simple triangle, she teaches us how to interpret and manage them so that we can feel more calm, content and able to enjoy our lives.

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The Mindful Space: What Are Emotions?

Hillary Jacobs, author and psychotherapist, discusses the core emotions (sadness, anger, fear, disgust, joy, and excitement) and how we can educate ourselves about emotions to improve quality of life. Discover the role that your core emotions like joy, fear, sadness, or anger play in your life and what they might be telling you about what you should do for wellbeing and to thrive amidst life's many challenges. i=1000599098789

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Routines & Ruts

Hilary Jacobs Hendel on emotions, types of shame, and slowing down


Psychotherapist and author Hilary Jacobs Hendel shares her deep knowledge of emotions and how we can use the change triangle to get reacquainted with the ebb and flow of feelings, our defences, and inhibitory emotions.

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Apparently Parent Podcast

In this episode of The Apparently Parent Podcast, I want to tell you about such a tool. It's called The Change Triangle and it was developed by Hilary Jacobs Hendel, LCSW, who is a guest in this episode. In the episode, Hilary and I talk about the change triangle and how it can play a role in your lives as parents (and also as just human beings with emotions, kids or no kids).

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Avaiya University Webinar

Using the Power of Emotions to Heal Depression and Loneliness

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100. Understanding Emotions

AEDP, how emotions & trauma function, and how shame, depression, and anxiety act as adaptive states.

We also discuss emotion-phobic culture; laughter as a defense; feeling overwhelmed & dissociated; banishing parts of the self; repressing emotions; triggers; emotional neglect; "the body knows how to heal"; creating a sense of safety; and SO much more!

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Close the Chapter Podcast

The mission for Close the Chapter Podcast is to help you through life’s transitions, navigate the hard and lonely times along the journey, learn helpful and powerful ways to cope with emotions and transitions, and empower you to discover the REAL you. In this episode, Kristen interviews me about using our emotions as a direct pathway to healing psychological suffering.This episode is to help you feel more calm, content, compassionate and connected.

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The Change Triangle for Guys: Normalizing Emotions for Men

The mission of The Barbershop Group is to create an emotionally safe space for men to discuss and address topics of mental health and wellbeing.

Men get a raw deal in our dysfunctional society. They are taught tender emotions like sadness and fear are weak. Men are taught it's weak to need love, friendship, soothing, tenderness in relationships, etc.

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The One You Feed

Recently I was interviewed by Eric Zimmer, host of the award-winning podcast The One You Feed. I think it is one of the best interviews on emotions I have done (she said humbly) so I am sharing it. Emotion education has so many benefits and we get none of this life-changing information in our formal schooling…yet. The Change Triangle is an invaluable tool for anyone with emotions — which is all of us — to meet the many emotional challenges of modern life.

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Relationship Alive!

"Beneath anxiety, depression, guilt, and shame, are core emotions that are hardwired into our circuitry. When you’re able to tap into the core emotions – and move through them – you’ll feel a new sense of freedom and empowerment – with the ability to handle anything that life sends your way.

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The Internal Battle

I really enjoyed my time chatting with the young and energetic Ricardo Mirville. His new podcast The Internal Battle addresses the conflicts that hold as back from becoming our most confident selves.

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Karen Hunter Show

I was so thrilled to be on The Karen Hunter Show on SiriusXM Radio on Wednesday (2/7/18). Click here to listen to a segment on wallowing in sadness. Karen Hunter, Cousin Syl, and I discuss grief and sadness. Karen doesn't like the idea of wallowing. But I try to help her understand the difference between wallowing and allowing ourselves to feel so we can heal. Important topic!

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Misconceptions About Emotions

Listen to Mental Health News Radio. This podcast is on relationships, core emotions and trauma.

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It's Not Always Depression

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Trauma Therapist Podcast

Listen to the Trauma Therapist podcast. I talk about AEDP, the emotion-centered, trauma and attachment-oriented psychotherapy I practice. We also talk about shame-based depression and what that means.

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Esther Perel's Salon on Relationships

Listen to Esther Perel and me discuss how a basic education in emotions helps our relationships thrive and grow deeper.

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Therapy Chat

A new podcast on core emotions and The Change Triangle

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© 2025 Hilary Jacobs Hendel, Change Triangle LLC, New York, NY

"The Change Triangle(R)" is a registered trademark of Hilary Jacobs Hendel and "It's Not Always Depression" (C) is a copyright of Change Triangle LLC 2018​. Emotions Education 101™ is a trademark of Hilary Jacobs Hendel and Heather Sanford.

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